tired of babycenter

[cmp03]

Hi - I am also over on the June board (I noticed a link to this site in one of your siggy's) - my screen name over there is NewJuneBaby.  While I am not as "natural" as many of you, I really like the principles of that lifestyle. My husband and I are just raising our daughter the best way we know how - which a sorta turned into a mixture of many different parenting styles.  Everyday I learn new things that I apply to our house. 

Like many of you, I can't read some of the post b/c I really feel that so many of them don't understand things.  I got annoyed reading the post about giving babies juice.  Why would you give your 4 or 5 month old something loaded w/sugar?  When I posted a comment about that, someone replyed w/"baby food made of fruit has sugar too".  Well, I don't feed my 4 or 5 month old baby food but either way, its natural sugar from the fruit versus added sugar for flavoring.  It just wasn't worth arguing about. 

I know that not everyone will agree with choices I make about parenting but I love to hear opinions about it so that I can learn about different alternatives.

[moogie]

Wintermaya (Amy?), i'm sorry they gave you a hard time on that thread.  When i first read it i was offended by what she said particularly the bit on new natural stuff and it being a fad.  After looking at the overall vibe of the thread i felt it was best that i not post. 

I don't understand why she's leaving. it was a couple of comments.  feels like a bit of a poor me.

[Lily84]

i think its pretty stupid that they keep posting about lets all get along ect etc and i need to leave the board... they are just stirring it up more and more and turning into a much bigger deal than it needed to be. she doesnt understand that WE were offended anyways

[Celeste]

I haven't chimed in on the subject yet!  I felt so much support as a natural momma during the pregnancy phase, but once the babies were born it seems like we are nuts!  I think that a lot of women didn't realize how difficult it can be to be natural, and it's not JUST about the birth experience.  I started to really break from the board when women said that they had a natural childbirth because they didn't get an epidural, but still got Stadol and gas.  I did get pitocin, and I totally regret it.  GRR. 

I was shocked when moms with four or five week old babies started talking about how they were CIO!!

And the formula feeding moms.  I know that there are legitimate reasons for not breastfeeding, like medication or physical restrictions.  I don't agree with some of the medications that force women not to breastfeed, but there are several that are understandable.  I just hate how women act as if they should be treated specially because they FF, or how they talk about how it doesn't matter.  Sure, there kids will be fine, but that doesn't make it the better choice.  I have worked really hard to breastfeed, and don't feel that people should make ME feel bad because I busted my butt to make it work.  With my first I was one of those moms who was sorda grossed out by the idea.  But it's not about me, it's about my baby.  Now I love it and couldn't imagine it any other way.

Megs- I remember that we had similar difficulties BF our first DDs, and I think it is awesome that we stuck it out as long as we did.  I endured bleeding nipples, exclusively pumping for awhile, and so many other things to provide the best for my baby.  I think that I should get brownie points for that!!!  I am glad that you provided this board for us so that we won't be viewed as crazy or self rightous for the way that we live.

Celeste

[wintermaya]

I dont know why I was even reading that thread. The best part was I didnt even really say anything negative to them about bottle feeding. Frankly yes sometimes I do think I deserve a medal!! This is my 6th year of nursing babies and I work full time so it takes loads of effort to make it work.  To read someone say that they never even made an attempt to try it and then go on to say that they find it creepy an dismiss the whole concept as some new age trend is nearly ridiculous to me.  Oh I am really very nice in real life. Now I feel a little bad if she stormed off.  I really just should have just not even read the thread. As a third time mom I really feel like most of the stuff they talk about doesnt really apply to me. I am very set in my ways at this point.  I would never actually approach someone and tell them how awful I think it is that they FF their child. But I do always tell BF moms that I meet that I support their decision. 

[Lily84]

i think the argument that ff is just food is ridiculous! frozen pizza is just food but its not the same as vegetables! formulas is IMITATION breatmilk...i know that the kids will be okay i just cant indertsand their point of view

[wintermaya]

my dh said "mcdonalds is food too". See I could be far more offensive.

[Lily84]

i didnt think you were insensitive... i guess we were just unwanted there so no matter what you said it would have unsolicited

[moogie]

i shudder to think that if they think pizza is just food what wonderful healthy food they'll be eating down the line.

Yeah Celeste, i had a bugger of a time bfing and it made me appreciate too that some mothers don't choose whether they can breastfeed or not.  i hated pulling a bottle out to feed my baby. I fought to breastfeed till the very end and i bonded better when i bottlefed. so i do get that its not always a choice.  i was in hospital on a drip with mastitis when i was 7 dpp with my first .

[heathernkids]

ok, I'm a little annoyed right now, because this is how we're perceived over there:
http://boards.babycenter.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=22029&webtag=bcus1418521

and I'm going to post a few lines in reply to us:
At the risk of being asaulted by all our bf june mommies...
I know that all the breastfeeders on this board have a long list of nasty things they'd love to say back to people who dare comment on their NIP!!... Who's to say that she didn't get nasty with the attendent, pulling an 'it's my legal right' attitude....  The issue was not her breastfeeding her baby!! She has a right to do so, but the airline also has a right to ASK her to cover up!....Anyways, yell away if you want

is anyone else confused? Do we assault people? and yell?

And I still think it's wrong to ask a mother to cover up because we're in America. Good, then I hope when people like Pam Anderson fly Delta they ask her to cover hers up too. 

[Lily84]

lol, yeh i really like jessica and we have chatted a lot but when i read that i was offended. i think they now see us as "out there" and nuts, defensive, weird,... i can think of a lot of words that probably describe what they think of us! that board totally turned into the us vs the them and unfortunately i think they see us as the odd ones. we are different and smaller so i guess that makes us weird. arrggg.... people can be so naive and cant think outside the box i guess...

[Lily84]

she also said she would rather stay out of any thread that has anything to do with bf'ing mothers...LOL i have a mental image of us rinning around rabid and screaming mad like crazy women...LOL i dont think we are like that! i just think we got defensive(and rightfully so) on some things, and SO DID THE FF'ers...we dont talk about how crazythey are!! plus some of them left the board to pout over bf vs ff...

UH OH!! WATCH OUT FOR THOSE CRAZED BF'ING MUMS!

[kristenp5]

I don't get how people are claiming the story can be "spun."  The attendant should never have even offered the woman a blanket (unless the woman specifically requested one)!!!  I've had flight attendants be rude to me when nursing on flights, though, so I'm not totally surprised. One refused to give me my meal or a drink until my daughter was done eating.  Another refused to look at me/acknowledge me while I was nursing.  Obviously these flight attendants need some sort of training in this area!

[heathernkids]

I posted a little personal info- which will be ignored I'm sure but my dh did not support my decision to bf. (organic food is fine- boobs are *weird*) He is the father of my children, so to have an "issue" with my choice even with him IN MY OWN HOME...it is exhausting and makes me feel like the "big boob invader". Then when moms think we are crazy and volatile on our own baby board it is just plain ridiculous. So I'm sticking with my belief that I think a lot of women have a huge chip on their shoulders and need to get over it. There's no reason to attack us. Excuse me for wanting to feed my baby in a healthy way- for free- using what God darn well gave me. And that goes to dh as well! 
I love how people want to avoid anything to do with breastfeeding mothers- that comment is interesting (on a pro bf thread of course LMAO)  because again I was unaware we were agressive. Last I checked we just have facts a lot of people don't want to hear. What a shame.