Help, need Toilet training/EC advice.

[moogie]

Some days Charlie is all for EC and other days no way.  I figure a good step since she only wees about 5 times per day was to get her training pants.  BTW, i love them, they're from Marnie http://www.nooneewilga.com/default.html  .  Charlie liked the pants and i told her when she wears the pants that she needs to use the potty.   Well she did use the potty but she also kept the pants on while doing so.  is it just something she'll learn with time?  I know Kody started taking his training pants off, but Charlie likes to keep anything pants wise on.  Also i saw this on your site Marnie:

"I sometimes take her to the potty, though she won’t sit if she doesn’t want to. I ask her if she needs to do a wee, sometimes she will nod and trot off to where she left a potty last, more often she says “nnnooooo”. If I KNOW she needs to go, then I will bring the potty to her, or take her a variety of different places to try to find the one that she is happy to use. "

Any suggestions for what to do when i'm bfing Asha and i know Charlie needs to go.  If she could learn to pull those pants down it'd be easier.

So i guess i'm just after advice concerning the whole situation.  When she does get on the potty, she's all smiles and knows exactly whats going on.

[moogie]

my head is scrambled, what i meant to say was:

Marnie, what i quoted from you is exactly what c does.  she loves the word noooooooo.

[ShannonandDel]

So is the problem that she won't pull the panties down or that she hasn't figured out how to yet. Delaney peed on the potty once while still wearing panties and was terribly upset by it and so I taught her to pull hers down. It just took a few times. She isn't so great at putting them back on yet. Half of the time she puts both feet in the same leg hole and pulls them all the way up to her waist. THe other day Scott couldn't find any panties, and her found like four pair, all around her waist with her bare butt hanging out
I still pull them down for her, but just because I can do it faster and sometimes she waits until it is an emergency

A lot of the time we just  keep her in a little dress with nothing on underneath at home........Would she be OK with that?


Going potty in her favorite Space dress (Thanks Addrienne!)

In her panties

[jnezmama02]

Megs, to help w/ the clothes issue, I would dress C in really loose pants (a size bigger than she really is) to make it easier to get them on/off or just dress her in a t-shirt (or short dress).  One thing is that you say that some days she's into it and some days she's not. If it becomes too much of a stresser for you or her, then I'd just back off for a month or two and try again later. There's nothing that says she has to potty-train right now. Also, most kids don't do well w/ pt and the addition of a new baby; I know Asha's been around for a while, but it still mimght be too soon for such a big developmental milestone.

Shannon, those pics of Del on the potty are too cute!

[moogie]

My main problem is that my problem is going at ahundred miles an hour in my head and i can't put together my prob on paper. 

Frustrated about everything yes.

Ok.  My problem is that Charlie wants to go to the toilet when I'm bfing Asha, which menas i can't take her nappy or undies off.  She can't go without them because we rent and can't let the place have too many wee accidents.  I guess it won't take long for her to learn to pull her pants down.

I think i'm mostly venting.

[ShannonandDel]

 

[jnezmama02]

I see...I think I understand now.   I'm guessing that you're trying to get C to go to the potty right before you sit down to nurse, but that she says she doesn't have to go then. But, then, as soon as you sit down and start nursing, then she says she has to go (when you can't get up to help her), so she ends up peeing on the floor if naked or on the potty thru her panties if dressed. Is this right?

If what I say is right...I'm sure you are quite frustrated. I know it's frustrating and hard to figure out how to get both needs met.  I had the same problem w/ Jessie needing a diaper change or something to eat while I was nursing or holding Emily while sleeping. First, let me say it does get better w/ time.  Second, on a practical side, could you possibly put a potty chair next to the chair you nurse in, so that C could just come over to you and you could lean over to pull down her pants (takes some practice while nursing, but is doable). Then, she could do her business and you could lean over again to help her wipe and pull up her pants. Of course, you'll need to put a plastic sheet underneath the chair to protect the floor. I know this isn't ideal, but it is an option during this frustrating time. Other than that option, I don't have any suggestions.

I'm sending big and positive vibes your way. It will get better soon!!

[kokonutmama]

I think, maybe, it would be a good investment of some of Asha's nap time if you taught Charlie to pull her pants down.  She does have a bit of a badonk-a-donk, though, I know, compared to Kody's and Delany's badink-a-dink.  (butt)  Maybe that would help?  Other than that... 

[ShannonandDel]

She does have a bit of a badonk-a-donk, though, I know, compared to Kody's and Delany's badink-a-dink.  (butt)  Maybe that would help?  Other than that... 

 
I never even thought of it that way. I actually had an impossible time finding panties that would stay up on Delaney so I am sure it is easier for her to get them down.

badink-a-dink

Megs, for us it was all in the thumbs. Get her to hook them in her panties and push them down. Delaney seemed to understand "push" better than "pull"

If all else fails, splurge on a carpet steamer and take her pants off. We rented to a friend with a toddler, and those carpets came very clean!

[moogie]

  She does have a bit of a badonk-a-donk,

lol very true, she has to manouvre those pants over it.

great idea. about practicing though.

yesterday she was nappiless in the arvo.  she weed twice(on the carpet and the lounge) but then her third wee, she told me and she went to the bathroom.  I think having had 2 accidents she realised the third time that she needed to go.  it was not my intention, just forgot to put her pants back on.

[Marnie]

Any suggestions for what to do when i'm bfing Asha and i know Charlie needs to go.  If she could learn to pull those pants down it'd be easier.

Ahh, isn't it always the case that one child needs you when you have your hands full with the other???  LOL

As already mentioned, take C to the potty just before nursing A - when you probably should go yourself because there is nothing worse than an uncomfortable drawn out nursing session with a full bladder!

What I nearly always did was nurse DD#2 in a ring-sling or pocket sling so that when she went to sleep I could easily lay her down somewhere - or get up and hang out the washing while she was still nursing or I could attend to DD#1 who was sure to get stuck somewhere just as DD#2 was almost asleep...

It is well worth while learning how to nurse in a sling - probably ring slings are a bit easier to get started with as you can draw up the sides separately.  I think that there are pics of me and friends nursing in slings on my slings page on my website - follow link in my sig. 
Hope that helps.