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« on: February 14, 2006, 07:11:12 AM »

just before i sign off (im procrastinating on the packing) i found the article the other day on time out and why it isnt a good option and found it interesting.

i was wondering what everyone thinks bout this...

as a child i didnt get anything like time out- i was an only child and pretty well behaved- i was grounded a few times but they always were dropped after the initial anger subsided i was never really a "naughty child".

for many people i think the concept of time out is seen as a way of disciplining without coming to heads with the child- no yelling, smacking ect...

the articles says that in times of acting out ect- the best thing to do is hold the child and reasure them and talk them through the outburts ect.

wondering what you all think-

The Disadvantages of Time-Out
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Aletha Solter, Ph.D.

For more information about alternatives to time-out, please see Aletha Solter's books:The Aware Baby, Helping Young Children Flourish, and Tears and Tantrums

Copyright © 1992, 2000 by Aletha Solter. No part of this article may be reproduced, electronically or mechanically, without written permission from the author. This article was originally published in Mothering magazine in the Fall issue of 1992. It was revised and updated in 2000.

As concerned parents and educators have become aware of the dangers of physical punishment, time-out has emerged as a popular disciplinary tool. Misbehaving children are told to sit quietly on a chair or go to their rooms to calm down and think about what they did. After a period of time, they are allowed to come back to the group or join the family, provided that they act "appropriately." The designated period of time is usually one minute per year of age, and children who leave the chair or room before their time is up are told to return for the full allotment once again. Some books recommend an added rule of silence, and suggest that the timing be repeated if the silence is broken. In either case, parents who use this method are promised quick and easy results.

Time-out stems from the behaviorist movement based on the work of psychologist B.F. Skinner. His theory of operant conditioning asserts that children will behave in certain ways if they receive rewards for doing so ("positive reinforcement"), and that undesirable behavior can be diminished by withholding the rewards or by invoking pain (both of which are termed "punishment"). Skinner himself believed that all forms of punishment were unsuitable means of controlling children's behavior [1]. Even so, while spanking is on the wane in the United States, the withholding of love and attention has persisted as an acceptable means of control.

Beneath the Surface

Using time-out appears less injurious than hitting, spanking, or yelling, because it does not involve physical or verbal abuse. It is therefore thought to represent some degree of progress in our continual striving to make this world a better place for children. According to many educators and psychologists, however, time-out is not as innocent as it seems and is, moreover, an emotionally harmful way to discipline children. In fact, the National Association for the Education of Young Children includes the use of time-out in a list of harmful disciplinary measures, along with physical punishment, criticizing, blaming, and shaming [2].

Beneath the surface, time-out is an authoritarian approach and, as such, can work only among children trained to comply with the power and authority of adults. Children trained to conform to such measures know that the consequences of disobeying are worse than adhering to the injunctions. Children who have not been brought up in an authoritarian environment will most likely refuse to go to another room or sit in a chair.

How does a child learn about the consequences of disobedience? Proponents of time-out advise parents to remove all privileges such as TV, toys, music, and so forth until compliance has been achieved. Always there is the threat of deprivation or further penalty. In some families there may even be an unspoken threat of violence. Although the method seems innocent enough, it requires a past history of punitive authoritarianism to produce children docile enough to obey.

Proponents claim that time-out is not a form of punishment. They use terms such as "consequence," "renewal time," or "down time" to make the approach sound benign. The term "time-out" itself has pleasant connotations of a sports team taking a well-deserved break. Regrettably, this non-threatening terminology has deluded parents into thinking that the approach is harmless.

From a child's point of view, time-out is definitely experienced as punishment. Who wants to be isolated from the group and totally ignored? It is quite likely that children view this form of isolation as abandonment and loss of love. And while parents are often careful to provide reassurances of their love and to distinguish between the child and the unruly behavior ("I love you, but you need to go to your room for five minutes because what you did is not acceptable"), their actions speak much louder than their words.

Children under the age of seven simply do not have the capability to process words in the same way that adults do [3]. Concrete experience and perceptions of reality impact more strongly than language. Being isolated and ignored is interpreted as "Nobody wants to be with me right now. Therefore I must be bad and unlovable," and no loving words, however well intended, can override this feeling of rejection.

Nothing is more frightening for a child than the withdrawal of love. Along with the fear come insecurity, anxiety, confusion, anger, resentment, and low self-esteem. Time-out can also cause embarrassment and humiliation, especially when used in the presence of other children. In the child's realm of experience, time-out is nothing short of punitive.

Painful feelings are one consideration; the information conveyed about human relationships is another. What message are we giving our children in demonstrating that love and attention are commodities to be doled out or withheld for purposes of controlling others? Is this a conflict-resolution skill that will be useful to them? How will it influence their ability to interact with friends, and some day with a spouse and coworkers? Wouldn't it be better to teach children useful conflict-resolution skills right from the start, rather than convey the message that the only way to solve conflicts is to cut off communication?

Although the trouble with time-out is in large part invisible, one aspect is glaringly obvious: at some point it stops working. Proponents of the approach admit that it is effective only up until the age of about nine. Can you imagine telling your teenager, who may be taller than you, to sit in a chair while you ignore him? Teens who have any sense of their own self-worth will laugh at such a command. The adolescent version of time-out is the practice of "grounding" teenagers by not allowing them to go out on the weekends or in the evenings. But this method only leads to resentment, resistance, and deceit.

Indeed, any method based on power and authoritarianism must eventually be abandoned, simply because parents run out of power [4]. Parents of teens face an entirely new set of difficulties when their tried-and-true methods of control prove utterly ineffective. Parents who adopt non-authoritarian methods right from the start, on the other hand, are able to prevent the power struggles, as well as the discipline problems, that so often come with adolescence.

Hidden Consequences

The use of time-out leads to a host of hidden problems. For one, when we enforce a time-out for children who are crying or raging, they get the message that we do not want to be around them when they are upset. Certain that we will not listen, they may soon stop bringing their problems to us.

Furthermore, such children may learn to suppress their feelings, especially if we insist on time-out in silence. Have we forgotten that crying and raging are healthy tension-release mechanisms that help relieve sadness and frustration? [5,6,7] Have we ignored the research showing that stress hormones are excreted through tears, thereby possibly reducing the effects of stress and restoring the body's chemical balance? [8]. In teaching our children to suppress their tears, we may actually be increasing their susceptibility to a variety of emotional and physical imbalances. Swiss psychotherapist Dr. Alice Miller states that one of the most devastating things we do to children is deny them the freedom to express their anger and suffering [9].

An additional problem is that the use of time-out does not address the underlying cause of the "inappropriate behavior." Children act in specific ways for good reasons, even though the youngsters themselves may not be aware of them. Most undesirable behavior can be explained by one of three factors: the child is attempting to fulfill a legitimate need, the child lacks information or is too young to understand, or the child is feeling upset (frustrated, sad, scared, confused, jealous, or insecure) [10]. When we try to change a behavior without addressing these feelings and needs, we do not help our children very much at all. Why? Because the underlying problem will still be there. Teaching children to conform to our wishes does not resolve the deeper issues.

For example, siblings who are repeatedly separated and sent to their rooms when they fight may eventually learn to stop fighting in front of their parents. Their unresolved feelings of jealousy and hatred, however, may come to expression in more devious ways, or they may carry their resentments into adulthood. Curtailing the symptoms of a problem does not solve the problem.

Parents have been led to believe that children will use time-out to think about what they did and regain some modicum of self-control. In reality, when children act in inappropriate, aggressive, or obnoxious ways, they are often harboring such strong pent-up feelings that they are unable to think clearly about their actions. Far more helpful than isolation is an attentive listener who can encourage the expression of honest feelings. The healthy release provided by talking, crying, or raging may even prevent the recurrence of unwanted behavior.

Holding children who hit or bite is much more effective than isolating them. Firm but loving holding creates safety and warmth while protecting other children from getting hurt. It also invites the expression of genuine feelings (through crying and raging) while reassuring the child of the indestructible parent-child bond. [10]. It is paradoxical, yet true: children are most in need of loving attention when they act least deserving of it. Telling a violent child to sit quietly rarely accomplishes anything constructive and only further contributes to the child's pent-up anger and feelings of alienation.

It is not necessary to isolate children and withdraw our love to teach them how to "behave". In fact, it is entirely possible to help children learn to be cooperative and decent members of society without ever issuing punishments, rewards, or artificial consequences of any kind. No quick and easy method will solve every conflict. Instead, we need to treat each situation as the unique challenge that it is, and try to be flexible and creative, all the while giving our children the love and respect they deserve.

Notes


Robert D. Nye, "B.F. Skinner and Radical Behaviorism," Three Views of Man (Belmont, CA: Wadsworth Publishing Company, Inc., 1975), p. 51
"Avoiding 'Me Against You' Discipline," Young Children, Vol. 44, No. 1. (Washington DC: National Association for the Education of Young Children, November 1988), p. 27.
Jerome S. Bruner, "The Course of Cognitive Growth," American Psychologist 19 (1964), pp. 1-15.
Thomas Gordon, Parent Effectiveness Training (Three Rivers Press, 2000), pp. 193-194.
Aletha J. Solter, The Aware Baby (Goleta, CA: Shining Star Press, 2001), pp. 39-41.
Aletha J. Solter, Helping Young Children Flourish (Goleta, CA: Shining Star Press, 1989), pp. 5-9.
Aletha J. Solter, Tears and Tantrums (Goleta, CA: Shining Star Press, 1998), pp. 13-32.
William H. Frey II, & Muriel Langseth, Crying: the Mystery of Tears (Minneapolis: Winston Press, 1985), pp. 45-58.
Alice Miller, For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child-Rearing and the Roots of Violence, (New York: Farrar, Straus, Giroux), pp. 106, 259.
Martha G. Welch, Holding Time (New York: Simon & Schuster, Inc., 1988), pp. 42-43.
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Re: time out
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2006, 08:56:00 AM »

I am not a fan of time outs. Whenever I was given them as a child I would just stew, and get more angry. Of course they are to young for any discipline right now, but when Delaney throws her tantrums I just hold her until she is done crying. I don't know if it is the right thing to do but it seems to work for us right now.

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Re: time out
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2006, 09:51:40 AM »

When c has a tantrum (which happens sometimes when she is tired) we try to redirect her attention. For example, if she wants to play with a sharp knife, of course she can't, so if she is tired and throws a tantrum about it then we redirect her attention to something else. It almost always works straight away. I think this acknowledges her desires (to do whatever she can't) and gives her the love and attention to move onto something different. There have been situtations where she has had a tantrum about wanting to get down and run around somewhere where it is inappropriate for her to do that. In that situation I have just held her firmly and told her that she can't get down and given the reason. If possible I still would try to meet her need in some other way - showing her something interesting, point out something, etc.

Having said this, I am not going to fuss over her - she can work stuff out for herself at times.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2006, 11:08:46 AM »

It's interesting to me (_now_, lol!) that the author says time outs stop working after age 9.  When I was working for the after school program with a huge group of 5th graders (and had not yet learned so much about kids as I have since becoming a parent) I was told that the policy for discipline was the time-out.  My kids were ages 11-13!  To be perfectly honest, I was really turned off to the concept of time-out the more I used it, but I continued to use it alot because it was just so easy to say to a kid who was being disruptive, "get the heck out of my hair for five minutes and let me get controll of the rest of the kids without you riling them up again."  "Go, go, go, go!"  I'm so glad I've learned better ways to handle kids since then, but am forced to wonder about the training programs of both the jobs where I worked with groups of kids, KWIM?   Huh
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2006, 06:53:49 AM »

My initial reaction to this article is that I didn't like it. I felt the author used a lot of exaggerated examples and made major leaps in logic to make her point. For example, she said that time-outs obviously don't work b/c they only work on a temporary basis. I think she's missing the point here. Obviously, a time out isn't going to "solve" the underlying problem (needing attention, being hungry or tired, not being able to do something, etc)...it's not meant to...what it will do is to: 1. call attention to the child that their behavior to express the emotion they were feeling is not appropriate, 2. to remove the child from the situation in which the behavior occured and 3. to give the child a chance to calm down in a stimulus-neutral environment, so that a discussion about their behavior can happen later.

I feel that like any parenting technique, time-outs work (and are a positive thing) for some kids and don't work (or are a negative thing) for other kids. Whether they are a positive or negative depends on: 1. The child's age and/or maturity level, 2. the manner in which they are implemented (ie the calmness of the parent), 3. the reasons they are implemented (ie which behaviors warrant a time-out), 4. the environment of the time-out place, 5. the follow-up that comes after the time-out (ie discussion with the child about how they felt, what they did, etc), and 6. the consistency in which they are
implemented. 

Also, the author states "Proponents of the approach admit that it is effective only up until the age of about nine". Why is this a negative? OF COURSE, the same technique won't work with a 3yr old and a 10yr old. They've got very different needs, abilities, and cognitive reasoning. I would be skeptical of any technique that says that it works for any age child. I fully accept and expect that a different approach is needed for older kids.

While timeouts are not appropriate for babies or toddlers (under 2.5yrs), I think they work well for preschoolers (2.5-6). Most preschoolers are ready to learn a technique to calm down and don't like being held down. My 3yr old is VERY into "I'll do it myself". That's how they are at that age. When she is angry or frustrated she very rarely wants me to hold her while she's throwing a tantrum. Matter of fact, that's my first instinct, but it just makes her more mad. She immediately pushes me away and says no, and marches off to her playhouse or to the corner where she hangs out when she CHOOSES to be by herself. She actually gets MAD when someone gets into that space. So, sure, I wouldn't use this on my 13mos baby/toddler, but I find it useful w/ my older child who needs a stimulus-neutral environment, but who sometimes needs a reminder to step away from those things which cause unacceptable behaviors when she's in the middle of them.

Also, the author suggests that time-outs somehow stifle a child's need to be emotional. I agree that if you tell a child "when you're in timeout you can't cry" that it would be stifiling. However, I don't know many people who do this IRL. How we implement it is that you go to timeout when you are not acting appropriately and the natural consequence is to be removed from the situation (ie if you hit, kick, bite, scratch someone or you throw things). Jessie is allowed to cry, fuss, rage, etc as long as she likes, but she has to stay in that general area and can't hurt other people or things (we chose a spot by our front door that has no toys, no visible distractions like tv, and no objects to throw). She knows that she will not get out of time out until she calms down. Sometimes she calms down w/in a min, sometimes it's more like 5min. When she is calmed down, she says "I'm calm now" and then we sit down in a quiet spot and discuss what happened.

Another problem with this article is that it gives no alternative solutions to dealing with problems. This is a common problem in parenting information...tell what is wrong with a method, but then give no solutions. I feel her point would have been validated more if she would have said "...we need to treat each situation as the unique challenge it is...for example, if siblings fight over a toy, try doing x, y, and z but if a child is kicking a parent who is trying to clean, try doing a, b, and c". etc. Simply stating "no quick and easy method will solve every conflict" is unhelpful in the long run...we all know this already.

What's funny is, that after reading this article and writing out all of my points, I think I feel even stronger now, than I did before, that time outs can be a useful tool in the parenting toolbox if implemented correctly for the appropriate aged child (2.5-6yrs).

Just my 2 cents...
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